まずは事実関係をご整理させてください。長年勤め上げた会社から、ある日突然、事実上の退職強要を受けたとのことですね。
First, let me have you walk me through the facts. So you were suddenly pressured, by a company where you had worked for many years, to effectively resign — is that right?
はい。表向きは一時的な出向という名目ですが、それは単なる体のいい口実に過ぎません。業績不振にかこつけて、中高年社員を不当に排除しようとしているのは、もはや明らかです。
Yes. On the surface, it was presented under the pretext of a temporary secondment, but that was simply a convenient excuse. They are using poor business performance as a cover to unfairly push out middle-aged and older employees — by this point that is plain as day.
出向の打診を受けた際、どのような言葉を投げかけられたか、覚えていらっしゃる限りお話しいただけますか。具体的な発言が、後々重要な証拠となります。
When the secondment proposal was put to you, what sort of words were directed at you? Please tell me, as far as you can recall — specific remarks can become important evidence later on.
「君のような年配者に居場所はもうない」「自主的に身を引いてくれれば退職金を上乗せする」と、人事部長から面と向かって言われました。あまりの屈辱に、声を失うばかりでした。
"There is no place for older employees like you any longer." "If you step down voluntarily, we will add to your severance." The head of HR said this to my face. I was so humiliated I could only fall silent.
それは紛れもなく退職強要に該当する発言です。当時、録音をなさっていたか、あるいは同席者がいたかどうか、いかがでしょう。
Those statements unquestionably amount to coercion to resign. At the time, were you recording the conversation, or was anyone else present in the room?